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		<title>By: davedallasfan</title>
		<link>http://insidetheiggles.com/2009/06/17/the-myth-of-the-no-1-wide-receiver/comment-page-1/#comment-2559</link>
		<dc:creator>davedallasfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a comment i made on the landryhat, our cowboy blog was that speaking of a # 1 wr; if your ground game can flourish with westbrook and mccoy, mcnabb can throw 25 tds, does anyone really care who he throws them too? that formula spells victory, who cares if it produces a #1 wr? i&#039;m a huge fantasy footballer and that is the only place i&#039;ve ever seen that a #1 wr matters. you can win a nfl championship withouit one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a comment i made on the landryhat, our cowboy blog was that speaking of a # 1 wr; if your ground game can flourish with westbrook and mccoy, mcnabb can throw 25 tds, does anyone really care who he throws them too? that formula spells victory, who cares if it produces a #1 wr? i&#8217;m a huge fantasy footballer and that is the only place i&#8217;ve ever seen that a #1 wr matters. you can win a nfl championship withouit one.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Tunstall</title>
		<link>http://insidetheiggles.com/2009/06/17/the-myth-of-the-no-1-wide-receiver/comment-page-1/#comment-2558</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tunstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, dave. Balance is the key. Big time receivers will help you score points, but a solid run game keeps defenses honest. This has been Philly&#039;s problem under Reid. The offenses have always been high scoring, but the run/pass ratio often gets out of whack. So, when the pass game falters, they have nothing to fall back on. Hopefully, the additions of Peters, S. Andrews and Weaver will make them more physical in the run game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, dave. Balance is the key. Big time receivers will help you score points, but a solid run game keeps defenses honest. This has been Philly&#8217;s problem under Reid. The offenses have always been high scoring, but the run/pass ratio often gets out of whack. So, when the pass game falters, they have nothing to fall back on. Hopefully, the additions of Peters, S. Andrews and Weaver will make them more physical in the run game.</p>
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		<title>By: davedallasfan</title>
		<link>http://insidetheiggles.com/2009/06/17/the-myth-of-the-no-1-wide-receiver/comment-page-1/#comment-2557</link>
		<dc:creator>davedallasfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i seriously think that one of the major reasons that owens and mcnabb had the problems were the same that caused his departure in dallas. he wanted the ball.....all the time. this is not the way you win games. you run first, play good D. that gives you strength and time to dictate the rest of your game plan on the football field. that&#039;s not me just blowin smoke out my ass, that is the coaching philosophy of some of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. that is the one aspect of this historic game that has&#039;nt changed? yeah, it&#039;s been tweaked, but that run game never goes away. owens, as great as he is, can&#039;t win games himself. mcnabb loves to spread it around. this caused un-contentment on owens&#039; part leading to a complete selfish tantrum that lead to his demise in philly. we all know that. alot of so called #1 wrs can develop this attitude. owens just on such a higher level. this is why basically he was let go in dallas as well. he was a great weapon in the offense, but he was also in the same sentence, a distraction to the rest of the talent we have on this team. and now with an emerging dominant running game, who needs a #1 wr screaming for the ball constantly. if your O goes in that direction, fine. dallas is not. we did&#039;nt win that way, so it&#039;s time for a change. nyg won with a run based/D team. pitt did it too. so there you go stats don&#039;t lie. good points scott. mbIII, i see your points as well, but we can win with what we have now, and philly will be a better team without that #1 wr for D&#039;s to focus on. this is THE POINT. if you give a good D-coordinator one thing to take away, he will, leaving your offense one dementional. if you spread it out, they can&#039;t focus on one thing, thus making all your weapons more potent. (ala...jason witten). he&#039;s not a #1 wr type, he&#039;s not even a wr, but look at what he means to our O. see the picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i seriously think that one of the major reasons that owens and mcnabb had the problems were the same that caused his departure in dallas. he wanted the ball&#8230;..all the time. this is not the way you win games. you run first, play good D. that gives you strength and time to dictate the rest of your game plan on the football field. that&#8217;s not me just blowin smoke out my ass, that is the coaching philosophy of some of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. that is the one aspect of this historic game that has&#8217;nt changed? yeah, it&#8217;s been tweaked, but that run game never goes away. owens, as great as he is, can&#8217;t win games himself. mcnabb loves to spread it around. this caused un-contentment on owens&#8217; part leading to a complete selfish tantrum that lead to his demise in philly. we all know that. alot of so called #1 wrs can develop this attitude. owens just on such a higher level. this is why basically he was let go in dallas as well. he was a great weapon in the offense, but he was also in the same sentence, a distraction to the rest of the talent we have on this team. and now with an emerging dominant running game, who needs a #1 wr screaming for the ball constantly. if your O goes in that direction, fine. dallas is not. we did&#8217;nt win that way, so it&#8217;s time for a change. nyg won with a run based/D team. pitt did it too. so there you go stats don&#8217;t lie. good points scott. mbIII, i see your points as well, but we can win with what we have now, and philly will be a better team without that #1 wr for D&#8217;s to focus on. this is THE POINT. if you give a good D-coordinator one thing to take away, he will, leaving your offense one dementional. if you spread it out, they can&#8217;t focus on one thing, thus making all your weapons more potent. (ala&#8230;jason witten). he&#8217;s not a #1 wr type, he&#8217;s not even a wr, but look at what he means to our O. see the picture?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Tunstall</title>
		<link>http://insidetheiggles.com/2009/06/17/the-myth-of-the-no-1-wide-receiver/comment-page-1/#comment-2552</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tunstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO wasn&#039;t on the field in those two playoff games that got the Birds to the Super Bowl. He was on the field vs the Pats, and they still lost. 

If tall receivers are so important, how do explain the Pats and Steelers winning 5 Super Bowls with guys 6&#039;0&quot; and under? 

If you want me to write an article about the upside of having a #1 receiver in the playoffs, maybe I will. But the point of this article was to reveal it&#039;s not necessary to have an elite #1 to win a Super Bowl. I think that&#039;s pretty clear, if you put aside your preconceived notions and read what I wrote. And again, how can it be uninformed if I used the NFL record book to support my argument?

You can disagree with me. I have no problem with that. But to call me uninformed is not accurate. If it was uninformed as you suggest, I would have stated that an elite No. 1 receiver is not important without backing it up with solid evidence. If I was uninformed, I wouldn&#039;t have proven that 8 of 9 Champs this decade have won it all without one of those super-stud guys like Moss and TO. 

As far as Plax and Keyshawn go, I&#039;ll pose this question to you. Do you really think either one of them belongs in the same category as Moss, TO and Harrison? They don&#039;t have the career numbers or consistency to be among the very best.  

We can agree on Maclin. He has the makings of being a Reggie Wayne type player. It will take a couple years, but he and Jackson will cause some serious problems for years to come. Provided McNabb still has something left in the tank ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO wasn&#8217;t on the field in those two playoff games that got the Birds to the Super Bowl. He was on the field vs the Pats, and they still lost. </p>
<p>If tall receivers are so important, how do explain the Pats and Steelers winning 5 Super Bowls with guys 6&#8242;0&#8243; and under? </p>
<p>If you want me to write an article about the upside of having a #1 receiver in the playoffs, maybe I will. But the point of this article was to reveal it&#8217;s not necessary to have an elite #1 to win a Super Bowl. I think that&#8217;s pretty clear, if you put aside your preconceived notions and read what I wrote. And again, how can it be uninformed if I used the NFL record book to support my argument?</p>
<p>You can disagree with me. I have no problem with that. But to call me uninformed is not accurate. If it was uninformed as you suggest, I would have stated that an elite No. 1 receiver is not important without backing it up with solid evidence. If I was uninformed, I wouldn&#8217;t have proven that 8 of 9 Champs this decade have won it all without one of those super-stud guys like Moss and TO. </p>
<p>As far as Plax and Keyshawn go, I&#8217;ll pose this question to you. Do you really think either one of them belongs in the same category as Moss, TO and Harrison? They don&#8217;t have the career numbers or consistency to be among the very best.  </p>
<p>We can agree on Maclin. He has the makings of being a Reggie Wayne type player. It will take a couple years, but he and Jackson will cause some serious problems for years to come. Provided McNabb still has something left in the tank <img src='http://insidetheiggles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: theMBIIIeffect</title>
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		<dc:creator>theMBIIIeffect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when did you make your farthest run in the playoffs? When you had Terrell Owens. That&#039;s blatant error by omission and one reason why this article is crappy. Also, where do you get off calling all those receivers &quot;average to good?&quot; Plaxico is average to good? Keyshawn in &#039;02 was average to good? They&#039;re still guys that require double teams. That helps. I&#039;m not disputing the fact that you need a strong run game and a tough defense to make a deep run in the winter as the weather gets worse. But having that tall, strong receiver certainly helps your run game and your short passing game. It&#039;s simple. That&#039;s why I&#039;m calling your article crappy and uninformed. You fail to delve into the upside of having a number one receiver in the post season.

That being said, I think you have the number 1 type receiver in Maclin. He&#039;ll demand doubles in the postseason. He might not be that 1500 yard, 10 touchdown guy (the last guy to do that was Steve Smith in 2005 btw, turn those no. 1 receiver numbers down), but he&#039;ll cause enough problems just by being on the field late in the year where you SOB&#039;s might have a chance to get you a ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when did you make your farthest run in the playoffs? When you had Terrell Owens. That&#8217;s blatant error by omission and one reason why this article is crappy. Also, where do you get off calling all those receivers &#8220;average to good?&#8221; Plaxico is average to good? Keyshawn in &#8216;02 was average to good? They&#8217;re still guys that require double teams. That helps. I&#8217;m not disputing the fact that you need a strong run game and a tough defense to make a deep run in the winter as the weather gets worse. But having that tall, strong receiver certainly helps your run game and your short passing game. It&#8217;s simple. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m calling your article crappy and uninformed. You fail to delve into the upside of having a number one receiver in the post season.</p>
<p>That being said, I think you have the number 1 type receiver in Maclin. He&#8217;ll demand doubles in the postseason. He might not be that 1500 yard, 10 touchdown guy (the last guy to do that was Steve Smith in 2005 btw, turn those no. 1 receiver numbers down), but he&#8217;ll cause enough problems just by being on the field late in the year where you SOB&#8217;s might have a chance to get you a ring.</p>
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		<title>By: There&#8217;s Something Called the UFL and They Held a Draft &#124; Inside the Iggles &#124; A Philadelphia Eagles Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>There&#8217;s Something Called the UFL and They Held a Draft &#124; Inside the Iggles &#124; A Philadelphia Eagles Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott Tunstall</title>
		<link>http://insidetheiggles.com/2009/06/17/the-myth-of-the-no-1-wide-receiver/comment-page-1/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tunstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tk - Your points are all valid, but my argument about needing and &quot;elite&quot; receiver is still sound. 

Wayne and Harrison play on the same team and have Manning as their quarterback. They are clearly in the elite category, but the Colts represent 1 out of 9 Super Bowl Champs, or 11% of Champs this decade. So, 89% of Super Bowl winners fielded  average to great receivers, but no one I would compare to either Wayne or Harrison.

Plax was/is a legit red zone threat, but I think he&#039;s a notch below. Keyshawn&#039;s numbers in 2002 are well within reach by either Jackson or Curtis. Curtis had 1110 and 6 in 2007, when he was healthy. 
Hines Ward is a solid player who does everything well, but I still wouldn&#039;t place him in a group with Harrison in his prime, Fitzy, Moss and Owens.

DeSean and Curtis&#039; TD numbers in &#039;08 are irrelevant this season. DJax was a rookie still learning the offense and Curtis missed 7 games and was never fully healthy in the games he played. You can&#039;t use last season&#039;s stats as a fair barometer to measure what they will do this season. 

Perhaps it&#039;s wishful thinking on my part, but I believe DeSean can post an 1100-1200, 5-7 TD season, which if you look at the majority of Super Bowl winners this decade is more than enough to fill the No. 1 role.

If DeSean and Curtis both tank this season, and Maclin looks like a bust, then the argument about needing an elite receiver is appropriate to table. But let&#039;s see what these kids can do before we start recruiting Edwards or Marshall. 

By the way, Marshall, for all his skill, has 15 TDs in three seasons. Not exactly a big time red zone threat, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tk &#8211; Your points are all valid, but my argument about needing and &#8220;elite&#8221; receiver is still sound. </p>
<p>Wayne and Harrison play on the same team and have Manning as their quarterback. They are clearly in the elite category, but the Colts represent 1 out of 9 Super Bowl Champs, or 11% of Champs this decade. So, 89% of Super Bowl winners fielded  average to great receivers, but no one I would compare to either Wayne or Harrison.</p>
<p>Plax was/is a legit red zone threat, but I think he&#8217;s a notch below. Keyshawn&#8217;s numbers in 2002 are well within reach by either Jackson or Curtis. Curtis had 1110 and 6 in 2007, when he was healthy.<br />
Hines Ward is a solid player who does everything well, but I still wouldn&#8217;t place him in a group with Harrison in his prime, Fitzy, Moss and Owens.</p>
<p>DeSean and Curtis&#8217; TD numbers in &#8216;08 are irrelevant this season. DJax was a rookie still learning the offense and Curtis missed 7 games and was never fully healthy in the games he played. You can&#8217;t use last season&#8217;s stats as a fair barometer to measure what they will do this season. </p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s wishful thinking on my part, but I believe DeSean can post an 1100-1200, 5-7 TD season, which if you look at the majority of Super Bowl winners this decade is more than enough to fill the No. 1 role.</p>
<p>If DeSean and Curtis both tank this season, and Maclin looks like a bust, then the argument about needing an elite receiver is appropriate to table. But let&#8217;s see what these kids can do before we start recruiting Edwards or Marshall. </p>
<p>By the way, Marshall, for all his skill, has 15 TDs in three seasons. Not exactly a big time red zone threat, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: tkeagles</title>
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		<dc:creator>tkeagles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tunstall, although i somewhat agree that the eagles might not need a legit #1 receiver, i think your argument is seriously flawed.  

&quot;If you throw out Petyon Manning’s Colts from 2006, you have a group of average to good receivers, but none that I would - based on their regular season statistics - place in the elite category.&quot;

you can&#039;t &quot;throw out&quot; 1/9th of the statistics that you based your argument on and have it hold up.  if you were to look at all of the receivers, 6 out of the 11 you listed are over 1,000 yards.  more importantly, 8 out of the 11 receivers have 5 or more td receptions.  djax and curtis combined for 4 tds last year.  

the eagles might not need a legitimate #1, but it would definitely help if they had a receiver who was a threat in the EZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tunstall, although i somewhat agree that the eagles might not need a legit #1 receiver, i think your argument is seriously flawed.  </p>
<p>&#8220;If you throw out Petyon Manning’s Colts from 2006, you have a group of average to good receivers, but none that I would &#8211; based on their regular season statistics &#8211; place in the elite category.&#8221;</p>
<p>you can&#8217;t &#8220;throw out&#8221; 1/9th of the statistics that you based your argument on and have it hold up.  if you were to look at all of the receivers, 6 out of the 11 you listed are over 1,000 yards.  more importantly, 8 out of the 11 receivers have 5 or more td receptions.  djax and curtis combined for 4 tds last year.  </p>
<p>the eagles might not need a legitimate #1, but it would definitely help if they had a receiver who was a threat in the EZ.</p>
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		<title>By: davedallasfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>davedallasfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ask any offensive lineman what style of O he&#039;d rather play in?</description>
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		<title>By: davedallasfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>davedallasfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i think the health factor will come into play this year? guys like westbrook, felix, they give it their all and sometimes the body fails. this is what i see to be far more important to focus on. air games do NOT win championships? they can get you there, they can help you come from behind. they can get you out to a big lead. when the money is on the line, every coach, defensive player, and RB, (i&#039;m leaving out the qb and wrs for obvilious reasons) knows that this is the backbone of a championship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i think the health factor will come into play this year? guys like westbrook, felix, they give it their all and sometimes the body fails. this is what i see to be far more important to focus on. air games do NOT win championships? they can get you there, they can help you come from behind. they can get you out to a big lead. when the money is on the line, every coach, defensive player, and RB, (i&#8217;m leaving out the qb and wrs for obvilious reasons) knows that this is the backbone of a championship.</p>
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