Comparing the Eagles Offense: 2004 vs. 2010

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Eagles left guard Todd Herremans returned to practice today from the PUP list. (Photo: Ryan Messick)

Todd Herremans wins the comparison at left guard, but otherwise you have to go with the 2004 offensive line. (Photo: Ryan Messick)

Offensive Line

2004: Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan were the bookends with Artis Hicks at left guard, Hank Fraley at center and Jermane Mayberry at right guard. Thomas and Runyan combined for four Pro Bowls, Mayberry went once and Fraley and Hicks were solid players.

2010: Jason Peters and Winston Justice are the tackles with Todd Herremans at left guard, Mike McGlynn at center and a combination of Nick Cole and Max Jean-Gilles at right guard.  Peters is a three-time Pro Bowler, but nobody else has gained any career accolades.

Edge: 2004 definitely gets the advantage here.  While Peters is playing very well of late, you have to give the advantage to Tra Thomas at left tackle.  Runyan was one of the toughest players in the league during his career, and while Justice has made strides since coming into the league, Runyan gets an advantage there as well.  Fraley and Mayberry were both decidedly better in 2004 than McGlynn and Cole/Jean-Gilles are now.  Herremans gets the nod over Hicks, but that’s the only place where the 2010 squad has the edge.

Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has gotten better production than Brad Childress out of a similar unit. How much is because of Mornhinweg?

Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has gotten better production than Brad Childress out of a similar unit. How much is because of Mornhinweg?


2004: The Eagles ranked eighth in the league in scoring offense and ninth in yards, averaging 24.1 points and 351 yards per game.  The Eagles weren’t particularly consistent in their scoring though, being held to 19 or fewer points 7 times while going over 30 points six times, including two games in which they scored 40-49 points.  The Birds average output was good, but they laid a few eggs as well, being held to single digit points twice.

2010: Philadelphia sits second in the NFL with 28.7 points per game and 400.7 yards per contest.  More impressive, the Eagles have been held to 19 or fewer points just twice, while scoring 20-39 points 9 times.  The only big outlier was the 59 point performance on Monday Night in Washington, D.C.  Overall, the 2010 Eagles have had a more reliable offensive output.

Edge: The only big advantage in any personnel group went to the 2004 offensive line, while the 2010 squad has a slight advantage at quarterback, running back and tight end.  Perhaps it’s the Eagles deeper wide receiving corps that has led to more consistent offensive output, or maybe it’s the coaching staff.  Reid has a few more years under his belt and Marty Mornhinweg is putting together a much better 2010 than Brad Childress had in 2004 as offensive coordinator.  It’s a close call, but the 2010 offense appears to be a little bit better than the 2004 version.

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  • JMP4222

    This article is misleading. Don’t start booking superbowl vacations yet. The 2010 offense is better than 2004, granted. However the 2010 defense is awful in comparison to a great JJ 2004 defense. Our 2010 Offense had better be able to put up 30+ points a game, because they (defense) are going to give up 29 points per game. I’ve been an eagles fan too long and know better than to get excited now. The 2010 offense must continue to move the ball and score with long drives that wear out defenses (and keep our terrible defense off the field), not rely on the big play game that was feast/famine under donovan, maintain a good run/pass ratio, and allow Vick to stay in the pocket to throw with protection yet exploit defenses with his natural scrambling ability.

    The 2010 defense, well….they have to do something, anything. Make a tackle, get to the QB, stop RB’s with consistency. They tend to play decent first half ball and then fall apart in the 2nd half. It is not a good defense though, too small upfront and at LB – Brandon Graham was not a great selection (should have gone for a higher end Safety) as Parker has outplayed him this season. To get to the Big Show, you need a complete team, not a flash in the pan offense and a mediocre at best defense. Look at the Patriots dismantling of the NYJets. Is there a better coached team in the league. And I hate the Patriots (but respect the spit out of them).

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  • Ryan Messick

    I’ll actually be writing soon about the defense. Things are very different in the NFL now than they were in the past, and what you need on defense is different as well, I believe. Stay tuned for that article…